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		<title>By: seo mauritius</title>
		<link>http://soshable.com/theres-no-roi-in-social-media-if-you-suck-at-it/comment-page-1/#comment-17669</link>
		<dc:creator>seo mauritius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post with the web 2.0 emerging social media marketing can&#039;t be ignored anymore and you really put this into word for the snake oil social media consultant that give it a bad name that&#039;s just so True bookmarked and share</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post with the web 2.0 emerging social media marketing can&#8217;t be ignored anymore and you really put this into word for the snake oil social media consultant that give it a bad name that&#8217;s just so True bookmarked and share</p>
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		<title>By: JD Rucker</title>
		<link>http://soshable.com/theres-no-roi-in-social-media-if-you-suck-at-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3266</link>
		<dc:creator>JD Rucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Catherine - I love the facts that they dig up at Socialnomics. It&#039;s a bit skewed sometimes, but definitely effective.

@koningwoning - Definitely. It&#039;s the lack of research and information that is making the social media boom an opportunity for fakes and scammers.

@Annie - great point! I can see it soon becoming simply &quot;Media&quot;. It would make more sense since radio, television, and print are all heading online anyway and going Web 2.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Catherine &#8211; I love the facts that they dig up at Socialnomics. It&#8217;s a bit skewed sometimes, but definitely effective.</p>
<p>@koningwoning &#8211; Definitely. It&#8217;s the lack of research and information that is making the social media boom an opportunity for fakes and scammers.</p>
<p>@Annie &#8211; great point! I can see it soon becoming simply &#8220;Media&#8221;. It would make more sense since radio, television, and print are all heading online anyway and going Web 2.0.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Sorensen</title>
		<link>http://soshable.com/theres-no-roi-in-social-media-if-you-suck-at-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3265</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Sorensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD, powerful vid, something that can easily be shared to help explain the crazy phenomenon that is online social media (soon to be called simply &#039;media&#039;).

What&#039;s most amazing to me is, regardless of the numbers, the vast majority of companies large and small still ignore SM, calling it a fad, a waste of time, silly.  It&#039;s THAT that I almost find more fascinating than the success of companies that DO get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD, powerful vid, something that can easily be shared to help explain the crazy phenomenon that is online social media (soon to be called simply &#8216;media&#8217;).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s most amazing to me is, regardless of the numbers, the vast majority of companies large and small still ignore SM, calling it a fad, a waste of time, silly.  It&#8217;s THAT that I almost find more fascinating than the success of companies that DO get it.</p>
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		<title>By: koningwoning</title>
		<link>http://soshable.com/theres-no-roi-in-social-media-if-you-suck-at-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3264</link>
		<dc:creator>koningwoning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish it would just stay @ social media experts. Over here in the Netherlands it&#039;s not only social media experts... it overall internet experts.  People who have two years of SEO/SEA experience, or who have worked three years at a publisher, in sales, step over into the consulting realm and feed crap to advertisers.
In the land of the blind......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish it would just stay @ social media experts. Over here in the Netherlands it&#8217;s not only social media experts&#8230; it overall internet experts.  People who have two years of SEO/SEA experience, or who have worked three years at a publisher, in sales, step over into the consulting realm and feed crap to advertisers.<br />
In the land of the blind&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video.
Some facts are awsome! Just could not believe profits jump up that dramatically. Social media is a strong and powerful means of reaching thousands of potential customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video.<br />
Some facts are awsome! Just could not believe profits jump up that dramatically. Social media is a strong and powerful means of reaching thousands of potential customers.</p>
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		<title>By: JD Rucker</title>
		<link>http://soshable.com/theres-no-roi-in-social-media-if-you-suck-at-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3238</link>
		<dc:creator>JD Rucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, I loved that article and tried to leave a comment, but after 4 paragraphs and 15 minutes of composing, it timed me out and I lost it. I&#039;ll rewrite it soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, I loved that article and tried to leave a comment, but after 4 paragraphs and 15 minutes of composing, it timed me out and I lost it. I&#8217;ll rewrite it soon.</p>
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		<title>By: TechKive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There’s no ROI in Social Media… if you suck at it</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechKive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There’s no ROI in Social Media… if you suck at it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Larry Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD cool video gets the point across well, but I think the point is already across. I was with a group of dealers last week where I was challenged to stop telling them that social media is important and start telling them exactly what they should be doing about it.
 
“We know we need to be in it Larry, now give us a road map for getting it done.”
 
I posted a commented on another post by someone claiming to hate Chris Brogan and talking about the “Experts” in social media (the post was a grandstand and doesn’t deserve a link here that is why I am not mentioning the name of the post or liking to it). The comment was basically that there are no “Experts” in social media, just a lot of opinions right now.
 
“I think the only bad thing you can do in social media is to not get involved right now, jump in with both feet and engage in the conversation. In the end it is going on with or without you”

That&#039;s how I started this road map for these dealers on social media. Three other step I gave these dealers coming from what I have learned from you and others as well as through my own experience at Motortrendsonline.com 

1. First Listen – set up a listening post through Google Reader and Technorati. It’s hard to engage customers about what they are talking about unless you listen first. 
	Setup a Gmail account (if you don&#039;t already have one) 
	Go to www.google.com/reader this is your listening post 

                     Go to www.technorati.com type your name, your    companies name in quotes in the search bar when the search results come up right click the RSS feed button copy the link location 
                     Go back to www.google.com/reader click the blue plus (+) button and past the link in Google reader. Do this for your name, your dealerships name, your OEM, models ect. and start with listening to the conversation first. 

2. Setup a Facebook account and a fan page, Unblock Facebook access for you employees have them join your face book as friends and join your fan page. One of the first lessons I learned in Auto Sales in 1984 was to compile a friends and family list and work with them to get sales and referrals, My god here is a way to do that at the speed of light. Stop blocking your people from doing this from work, relationships are their work. 

3. When you do engage in the conversation do so to help, not to sell but genuinely help the customer get what they want. 
	Be authentic - say what you mean and do what you say
	Be Genuine – you have want to do what you say you&#039;re going to do…you might have to do it.
                     Be Helpful – sometimes being helpful means going out of your way to do something nice for someone FOR FREE.

JD I know you can add to this list so lets do so and take our own advice above. As Chris said in a blog post on competition “The best way to compete today…help” that is sound advice for anyone today competing in business of any kind. 

Larry Bruce (@pcmguy)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD cool video gets the point across well, but I think the point is already across. I was with a group of dealers last week where I was challenged to stop telling them that social media is important and start telling them exactly what they should be doing about it.</p>
<p>“We know we need to be in it Larry, now give us a road map for getting it done.”</p>
<p>I posted a commented on another post by someone claiming to hate Chris Brogan and talking about the “Experts” in social media (the post was a grandstand and doesn’t deserve a link here that is why I am not mentioning the name of the post or liking to it). The comment was basically that there are no “Experts” in social media, just a lot of opinions right now.</p>
<p>“I think the only bad thing you can do in social media is to not get involved right now, jump in with both feet and engage in the conversation. In the end it is going on with or without you”</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I started this road map for these dealers on social media. Three other step I gave these dealers coming from what I have learned from you and others as well as through my own experience at Motortrendsonline.com </p>
<p>1. First Listen – set up a listening post through Google Reader and Technorati. It’s hard to engage customers about what they are talking about unless you listen first.<br />
	Setup a Gmail account (if you don&#8217;t already have one)<br />
	Go to <a href="http://www.google.com/reader" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/reader</a> this is your listening post </p>
<p>                     Go to <a href="http://www.technorati.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.technorati.com</a> type your name, your    companies name in quotes in the search bar when the search results come up right click the RSS feed button copy the link location<br />
                     Go back to <a href="http://www.google.com/reader" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/reader</a> click the blue plus (+) button and past the link in Google reader. Do this for your name, your dealerships name, your OEM, models ect. and start with listening to the conversation first. </p>
<p>2. Setup a Facebook account and a fan page, Unblock Facebook access for you employees have them join your face book as friends and join your fan page. One of the first lessons I learned in Auto Sales in 1984 was to compile a friends and family list and work with them to get sales and referrals, My god here is a way to do that at the speed of light. Stop blocking your people from doing this from work, relationships are their work. </p>
<p>3. When you do engage in the conversation do so to help, not to sell but genuinely help the customer get what they want.<br />
	Be authentic &#8211; say what you mean and do what you say<br />
	Be Genuine – you have want to do what you say you&#8217;re going to do…you might have to do it.<br />
                     Be Helpful – sometimes being helpful means going out of your way to do something nice for someone FOR FREE.</p>
<p>JD I know you can add to this list so lets do so and take our own advice above. As Chris said in a blog post on competition “The best way to compete today…help” that is sound advice for anyone today competing in business of any kind. </p>
<p>Larry Bruce (@pcmguy)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Pasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Pasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, great title and I couldn&#039;t agree with you more.  I recently wrote an article that called out an example of a company claiming to be both and SEO and Social media consulting firm...and they just didn&#039;t have the goods to back that up.

http://www.drivingsales.com/blogs/paschconsulting/2009/11/20/the-social-media-king-had-no-clothes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, great title and I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more.  I recently wrote an article that called out an example of a company claiming to be both and SEO and Social media consulting firm&#8230;and they just didn&#8217;t have the goods to back that up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drivingsales.com/blogs/paschconsulting/2009/11/20/the-social-media-king-had-no-clothes" rel="nofollow">http://www.drivingsales.com/blogs/paschconsulting/2009/11/20/the-social-media-king-had-no-clothes</a></p>
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